Advice for D.I for Tone X / Tone X One pedalboard

[Jean-Baptiste Schalber]

Hi everyone,

I currently have a Tone X and Tone X One pedal . I have been using those more and more at home and band practice .

I'm playing guitar and steel /pedal steel with my band , so I need a versatile setup.

I'm trying to make my pedalboard work with those three options:

1) With an actual amp if needed
2) In the FX loop of an amp
3) Direct into a PA

For the first two options, I have no problem with my current setup.

For the third , I would like to have the possibility to have an XLR out and still be able to have an out for a monitor.

I know on this forum and YouTube, I find a lot of resources talking about the Sonic IR, but since I'm already using my Tone X for my IR, I'm not sure having another IR pedal will do the trick.

Can you bypass the IR on the Sonic IR to use it just as a DI?

Or would it be better to use a regular DI pedal or a DI/LI pedal ?

Let me know what you guys are using and what advice you would have for me.

Thanks

[Tony Rankin]

I have a Sonic IR as well as a Canvas Stereo DI/LI. I'm bypassing the IR in the Tonex and using the Sonic IR for the speaker cab simulation. Then I'm going into the Canvas, using the LI to FOH.

If you plan to use only the IR loaded in the Tonex, I think the Canvas would be a good choice.

Good luck and have fun!

[Bill Davis]

I globally bypass the IR section in the Tonex One and use the IR's in my Sonicake. Then out to the PA from the Sonicake XLR. I monitor with in ears which I control with an Ipad. No amp; but still amp like sound.

[Wiz Feinberg]

I do have a Sonicake pedal. But, when I hear its output, I hear a delay that I don't like. My main pedal board already has a DI built into the last pedal in the chain: an MXR M81 preamp pedal. I bought it at Sweetwater when it was on sale. It has a 4 band equalizer that includes mid shift and cut/boost. The bass and treble frequencies are similar to the Nashville 112 and 400 preamp controls. It has input and output volume controls. There are 1/4 inch and balanced XLR outputs. It also has a simple footswitch to bypass the preamp and just feed through to the output jacks. There is no noticeable delay like I hear in the Sonicake pedal. The noise level is dependent on how you set the input and output volume pots.

FWIIW, most soundmen offer to plug me directly into a mixer jack panel or a DI box if I'm close enough, using the 1/4 inch cable from the Tonex, or any effects pedals I may run. I surprise them when I pull out the Sonicake, or the DI out on the MXR M81.

[Tim Rose]

The tonex one has a trs out so you can run dual mono outs....that would handle the di - is this what you are asking?

I have 2 tonex ones running together via a modified y splitter (one for steel , one for tele). Lately ive been running direct to the board and then sending a aux back to my guitar amp. That way can better "monitor" whats going on out front.

[Wiz Feinberg]

I want to add to my previous reply. I mentioned that I use an MXR M81 preamp stomp box as the last effect on my pedal board. What I didn't clarify is that it has two buffered outputs. One is 1/4 inch and the other is a balanced XLR jack. I can use both outputs simultaneously. I run the XLR to the mixer build-out panel where it is split between the front of house and monitor mixers. I either feed the 1/4 inch output to my clip-on Behringer P2 IEM amplifier, if using in-ears, or to my amplifier if it's a live sound stage. I don't have to run both outputs if one isn't in play. But, I can if I want to.
Additionally, the M81 has a ground lift pushbutton to get rid of any ground loops that might happen. It also has a small pushbutton that bypasses the tone controls in the XLR output jack, leaving just the volume controls active, and has a footswitch that bypasses the entire electronics section. I sometimes use it (with my right palm) to see what my tone control settings sound like in the monitors, or in the main speakers, if I can hear them from the stage. If I hear too much or too little of a certain range, I tweak it on that pedal using this A/B test.

The M81 uses a standard polarity 9 volt power plug, like on the One Spot or other pedal board power supplies. I think I learned about it in a previous post in this (electronics) section of the forum.